Sunday, March 30, 2008

Ebay Shill Bidding Appeal Process

Shill Bidding is when you, or someone you know, bids on your items on eBay. EBay assumes you are purposefully running up your bids to get a higher price. The problem is, their software is very sensitive to e-mail addresses, IP addresses, and trends. In addition, the punishment for this crime can be lifelong banishment from eBay for everyone associated with an incident and there is no formal appeals process to speak of.


So what do you do?

Here are your options: You could go on all the bulletin boards and give your “My dog ate my homework,” story along with everyone else or you can wait the designated suspension time and appeal the finding.


Admittedly, eBay Safe Harbor department doesn’t do a great job of telling you the process. You get an e-mail that says this:


This email is to notify you that your account has been suspended for a minimum of XX days due to violation of our Shill Bidding Policy.

Shill Bidding is bidding that artificially increases an item's price or apparent desirability. Shill Bidding is prohibited on eBay. Bla, bla, bla.

Best regards,

Your friends at eBay


And suddenly your business has been shut down and someone has changed the locks.


Now what?

1) Get over the idea that you didn’t do anything wrong. No one cares. The fact is, its eBay’s party, they can do what they want to.

2) Do the time. As tempting as it is, don’t try to sneak back onto eBay. Big Brother is watching and, as smart as you think you are about IP addresses and banking and whatever else, consider this: EBay’s Safe Harbor department has a team of people that have been doing this full time for years. You just decided ten minutes ago to take them on at their own game. That’s like putting your kid’s soccer team up against Brazil’s national team on a whim?

3) Have faith. After your sentence is served. Reply to the original e-mail by stating, “My XX-day suspension is over, I would like my eBay account, (account name), reinstated.” EBay’s system will see your e-mail address and attach it to your file. Here’s the catch. Make sure you reply (not a new e-mail) from the same e-mail account eBay sent the message to. If it is not the same address, their system doesn’t know what to do with it and it gets round-filed.

4) Pick up the phone. If you are a Power Seller, call the power seller help line (866) 515-3229 and beg and plead for help. EBay is huge. These folks probably don’t even eat lunch in the same cafeteria at the Safe Harbor Secret Police. Their job is to help power sellers, so help them do their job by NOT being an A-Hole.

5) Soon, you’ll get an e-mail that says this:


Before we can consider your account for reinstatement, I need to ask you to take the following steps (see the complete details below):

1. Review important eBay policy information.

2. Contact Safe Harbor with any questions.

3. Reply to this email.

Bla, bla, bla…

Once you complete steps 1 and 2, please reply to this email. Your email should contain the following statement:

***I acknowledge and understand eBay's Shill Bidding policy, and agree

to comply with that policy as a condition of my reinstatement as an eBay

member.***

It must also include all relevant contact information in this format:

Name: (Insert your name here.)

User ID: (Insert your eBay User ID here.)

Email Address: (Insert your Email address here.)

Address: (Insert your mailing address here.)

Phone Number: (Insert your telephone number here.)

6) Jump through the hoops. Hit the links and read the policy. Remember, big brother is watching. You are now on the SS most wanted list so it might not be a bad idea to brush up on the rules anyway. Once you are done, reply back to the e-mail with the required information.

7) Be patient. You should be reinstated shortly.


Now that you know what to expect, hopefully you can sleep a little easier at night. I recommend using your brief eBay vacation to institute some internal policies to avoid a repeat occurrence. You also may want to plan some damage control as all of the customers you were doing business with are now raging mad at you. Remember, from the outside looking in, it appears that you packed up shop and fled the country without notice. “You have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do!”


Good Luck!


8 comments:

Unknown said...

Here's a crazy idea. Just don't do it in the first place.

Frank Provasek said...

((Here's a crazy idea. Just don't do it in the first place.))

Try having dozens of people accused of shill bidding at a trade show for model trains because the convention center WiFi gives everyone the same IP address. Try having a customer at an ebay drop off store check to see what her items sold for on the store computer, then both are cancellcelled for shill bidding.

PhilipCohen said...

For anyone interested, a case study of a classic, blatant shill bidder on eBay, and a comment on eBay’s attitude thereto at http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=24033

Jojo KInkaid said...

Shill bidding a serious topic at Modeeworld.

There is a forum I found on the internet that is free, and helps with Ebay, PayPal, business and the law. Just post any question, the experts will answer it if it has not already been answered!

The forum has a lot of expert advice on it. http://www.modeeworld.com/forums I found advice there about how to avoid EBAY suspensions, get past PayPal limitations, also lots of detailed help on creating your own business, getting past trademark violations, VERO and lots more. Plus general advice on how best to sell on EBAY, what sells the best, how to get the best price for your product, really everything related to EBAY and internet business.

Also advice about how EBAY really works and how PayPal really works. The inside scoop.

Beautiful forum. I was made a moderator of the forum and I love it!

http://www.modeeworld.com/forums

PhilipCohen said...

Shill Bidding on eBay: Case Study #2

Shining some light on the more sophisticated and therefore harder to detect shill bidding activity by some “professional” sellers on eBay auctions

Oh no, not another case study on shill bidding on eBay auctions? Yes, sorry, another one. This time a spreadsheet analysis of multiple auctions, from some "professional" sellers from the US and Australia. Needless to say the analysis demonstrates, once again, that, contrary to eBay's claims, shill bidding by many “professional” sellers is rampant on eBay auctions. The full comment and spreadsheet download links at:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=24296

Carla said...

FYI: don't know if you know this or look backwards in your comments, but ebay safeharbor uk team just got transferred to Ireland and their team is LIGHTYEARS behind - as in they couldn't find their ass with both hands grappling wildly. Just so you know...

PhilipCohen said...

More food for thought ...

How to become an eBay Diamond PowerSeller, the unscrupulous way
http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=6502763

PhilipCohen said...

Why is “Noise” Donahoe trying to destroy eBay?
http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=6502877